Talk:Paul R. Williams

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Paul Williams is not the architect of the Beverly Hillbillies house. His work is much more fluid, innovative, and restrained. In a word; classy. Sumner Spaulding's Kirkeby Mansion is pretentious and overbearing -- words never associated with Paul Williams. Please check out Karen Hudson's tribute, "A Legacy of Style."

If anyone has or can take photos of Williams buildings that would be great, particularly a clear shot of the LAX Theme Building.Pi9 09:56, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

"His list of clients included Lon Chaney". What Lon Chaney is that, senior or junior? WouterVH 22:46, 8 May 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Though there are a number of references to this, none of them specify which. Since the son is always identified as "Junior" I think we can safely asume that it is the father. Williams also may have designed the noted Lon Chaney (senior) Cabin in the Sierra Nevada, which was kept as a historical building when the designation of the John Muir Wilderness necessitated the removal of most man-made structures. For many years Chaney allowed pioneering mountain climber Norman Clyde to live there in the winter as caretaker. It was Clyde's only fixed residence at that time. -Willmcw 01:37, May 9, 2005 (UTC)

Merging Paul Revere Williams (1894-1980) with this page[edit]

Merging Paul Revere Williams (1894-1980) with this page sounds like a good idea to me. cbustapeck 17:42, 28 June 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I disagree. It appears to be mostly copied from this article [1]. I'm just going to make it a redirect. If you see anything from the source article that looks good then we can add it in our own words. -Will Beback 18:51, 28 June 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Clampett Mansion[edit]

Paul Williams did not design the Clapmett Mansion at 750 Bel Air Rd. This house was designed by architect Sumner Spaulding.

Age discrepancy?[edit]

This article states that Williams was born February 18, 1894, and married on June 27, 1917. Who's Who in America 1964 (presumably relying on info given by Williams himself) gives his date of birth as February 18, 1896, and his marriage date as June 27, 1922.

Is there a reference supporting the earlier dates, or are they just wrong? Or, alternatively, did Williams use the later years of birth and marriage to make himself seem younger? Kestenbaum 16:42, 11 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Update. I see that the Via magazine profile gives his YOB as 1894. The other online reference is 404. Kestenbaum 16:44, 11 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The book by Hudson [his grand daughter] listed in the references uses the 1894 date too. Carptrash 21:37, 11 October 2006 (UTC) it also gets him hitched in 1917.Reply[reply]

LAX Theme Building[edit]

Paul Williams contributed to the design of the LAX Theme Building and I believe it should be mentioned in the section on notable structures. See

Cjkindle (talk) 21:56, 29 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

My understanding is that Williams did some of the engineering work. While the buildig is very notable and visible, Williams' participation may be too minor to be worth noting. OTOH, there is an urban legend that he designed it so it might be worth mentioning it so that the record is set straight and so that readers won't assume it's an erroroneous omission. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 22:15, 29 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

According to he didn't actually have anything to do with the Theme Building — he worked on the overall project, but wasn't on that team and was just photographed in front of it, leading to the urban legend. (talk) 08:07, 30 May 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Recent story includes "" [2] ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:34, 17 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That appears to be just an opinion piece. I don't see what we coould add from it.   Will Beback  talk  00:05, 18 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Is it? I just saw it and thought someone here might be interested. The part about Willimas says: "Paul R. Williams in L.A., eventually flourished as a star architect and interior designer. From the 1920's until his death in 1980 he produced numerous prestigious projects, including houses for top Hollywood performers like Bill "Bojangles" Robinson, Frank Sinatra, Lucille Ball and Tyrone Power.

Orphaned at four, Paul Williams' launch was hardly auspicious. Like many others he was discouraged by teachers who insisted, "Negros don't hire architects and whites won't pay a colored designer..."

"Prospective clients would turn to leave as soon as they saw he wasn't white." recalls Williams' granddaughter, Karen E. Hudson. Resorting to trickery, he'd lie, telling retreating prospects that he was already over-committed. As he followed them he' d rapidly sketch their related ideas, beautifully and upside down. Through such ingenuity, Williams was able to win over many." ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:16, 18 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Don't get me wrong, it's always nice to find new sources. But I suspect that this source mostly draws from other sources that we alsready use. But we might want to add some more of the details about the subject, such as his trick of sketching upside down so his clients could see the drawing as he drew it.   Will Beback  talk  04:21, 18 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I want to use the same ref for the last two built works, but I want to include that there is a photograph of the La Concha Hotel with the ref for the La Conha Hotel. Is there a way to do that without repeating the whole reference? ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:40, 18 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It looks like you found it. <ref name="Las Vegas Review Journal"> Is that what you wanted?   Will Beback  talk  05:57, 18 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
But what if you're using the same reference, but a different page, or a different quote, or want to include another note? How do I do that without repeating the entire reference, or is that the only way? ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:00, 18 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


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Paul Williams (architect) (known as Paul R. Williams) is significantly better known than the law professor of the same name [Average yearly page views] Over the last year there have been an average of 3 views for the latter and 165 for the former No Swan So Fine (talk) 17:47, 26 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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